Comments on: Juniper versus Cisco…thoughts? http://www.routersguide.com/blog/juniper-router/juniper-versus-ciscothoughts/ This blog will tell you everything that you need to know about Cisco, Juniper, Netgear, Linksys, and Foundry wireless routers. Thu, 09 Sep 2010 08:48:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: ControlPlane http://www.routersguide.com/blog/juniper-router/juniper-versus-ciscothoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-6294 ControlPlane Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:39:33 +0000 http://www.routersguide.com/blog/juniper-router/juniper-versus-ciscothoughts/#comment-6294 Cisco and Juniper are both great products. They are often used for medium to large enterprise companies. I have worked with those products before, but using Cisco would be your best bet. Why? Well, Cisco is the only company that is a true network company. Cisco considers the entire network infrastructure and how they will work together. For example, Cisco has Routing and Switching products, Firewall products, VoIP products, Wireless products, Remote access products, Network Management products, Data Center specific products and much more. Juniper has a router and firewall. And until very recently now a switch which is a new addition, but needs time to mature compared to Cisco which has longevity and stability. Cisco's flagship switch product, Cisco Catalyst 6500 is very robust solution in the market today providing high availability, performance, and security. The new Cisco Nexus 7000, more prone to HPC is another major accomplish of adding high performance switching to the data center. The one thing that Cisco has over Juniper as an example is SSL VPN support. SSL VPN and Firewall capabilities are both supported on Cisco ISR 800, 1800, 2800, 3800, and Cisco ASA models. Juniper's SSG or NetScreen firewall product is only a firewall and doesn't support the leading edge remote access protocol, SSL VPN. You have to purchase the Juniper SA product to get SSL VPN. Thus increasing your cost and TCO overall. For a small business that wouldn't be feasible. In terms of pricing, Juniper products tend to be more expensive overall unless you are a Juniper Elite Partner, but Cisco Partners can also get large discounts for products. Just some thoughts to consider between Cisco and Juniper. And yes Cisco does have a strong GUI Network Management for administration of routers, switches, and firewalls. CP Cisco and Juniper are both great products. They are often used for medium to large enterprise companies. I have worked with those products before, but using Cisco would be your best bet. Why? Well, Cisco is the only company that is a true network company. Cisco considers the entire network infrastructure and how they will work together. For example, Cisco has Routing and Switching products, Firewall products, VoIP products, Wireless products, Remote access products, Network Management products, Data Center specific products and much more. Juniper has a router and firewall. And until very recently now a switch which is a new addition, but needs time to mature compared to Cisco which has longevity and stability. Cisco’s flagship switch product, Cisco Catalyst 6500 is very robust solution in the market today providing high availability, performance, and security. The new Cisco Nexus 7000, more prone to HPC is another major accomplish of adding high performance switching to the data center. The one thing that Cisco has over Juniper as an example is SSL VPN support. SSL VPN and Firewall capabilities are both supported on Cisco ISR 800, 1800, 2800, 3800, and Cisco ASA models. Juniper’s SSG or NetScreen firewall product is only a firewall and doesn’t support the leading edge remote access protocol, SSL VPN. You have to purchase the Juniper SA product to get SSL VPN. Thus increasing your cost and TCO overall. For a small business that wouldn’t be feasible. In terms of pricing, Juniper products tend to be more expensive overall unless you are a Juniper Elite Partner, but Cisco Partners can also get large discounts for products. Just some thoughts to consider between Cisco and Juniper. And yes Cisco does have a strong GUI Network Management for administration of routers, switches, and firewalls. CP

]]> By: Dave http://www.routersguide.com/blog/juniper-router/juniper-versus-ciscothoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-6295 Dave Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:39:33 +0000 http://www.routersguide.com/blog/juniper-router/juniper-versus-ciscothoughts/#comment-6295 What are you using elsewhere in the network? From a network management perspective, if you are already using Cisco for switching, sticking with it elsewhere in the network may be worth the extra $$$. I work on a network with 100's of switches and a couple dozen routers (all Cisco). Most of it can be managed and monitored without ever leaving the office. If you're expecting the network to grow and evolve, Cisco has some great features that are proprietary and don't work with other vendors. I'm sure Avaya is recommending Juniper in part because they don't want you talking to a Cisco rep and getting convinced that their VoIP options are better. :) Take this with a grain of salt though because I don't have much experience with Juniper. What are you using elsewhere in the network? From a network management perspective, if you are already using Cisco for switching, sticking with it elsewhere in the network may be worth the extra $$$.

I work on a network with 100’s of switches and a couple dozen routers (all Cisco). Most of it can be managed and monitored without ever leaving the office. If you’re expecting the network to grow and evolve, Cisco has some great features that are proprietary and don’t work with other vendors.

I’m sure Avaya is recommending Juniper in part because they don’t want you talking to a Cisco rep and getting convinced that their VoIP options are better. :)

Take this with a grain of salt though because I don’t have much experience with Juniper.

]]> By: D D http://www.routersguide.com/blog/juniper-router/juniper-versus-ciscothoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-6293 D D Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:39:33 +0000 http://www.routersguide.com/blog/juniper-router/juniper-versus-ciscothoughts/#comment-6293 I am a Cisco certified network associate ( Starting work on my Cisco certified network professional ), but i work for Juniper, and have to say that every test that i have ever come across comparing the two show that the Juniper out performs Cisco when placed head to head. Try looking at some performance benchmarks comparing the two. The one part i can tell you is Juniper is FAR BETTER in terms of Technical support and Customer service. While working for Juniper, they have never emphasized on case throughput. The Only guideline they have given us is to make sure the customer is happy, and fully functional. I will spend many hours a day troubleshooting Active directory or ACE server authentication even though those are not even Juniper products. Read in some forums how other users feel. I only know that working for Juniper has been a great experience, and that they treat of us very well. I am a Cisco certified network associate ( Starting work on my Cisco certified network professional ), but i work for Juniper, and have to say that every test that i have ever come across comparing the two show that the Juniper out performs Cisco when placed head to head. Try looking at some performance benchmarks comparing the two.

The one part i can tell you is Juniper is FAR BETTER in terms of Technical support and Customer service.

While working for Juniper, they have never emphasized on case throughput.
The Only guideline they have given us is to make sure the customer is happy, and fully functional.
I will spend many hours a day troubleshooting Active directory or ACE server authentication even though those are not even Juniper products.

Read in some forums how other users feel. I only know that working for Juniper has been a great experience, and that they treat of us very well.

]]> By: slowpoke_115 http://www.routersguide.com/blog/juniper-router/juniper-versus-ciscothoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-6292 slowpoke_115 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:39:33 +0000 http://www.routersguide.com/blog/juniper-router/juniper-versus-ciscothoughts/#comment-6292 Go with Cisco, the IOS is basically a stripped down version of Cisco and offers less configuration. I work in a data centre and almost all our kit is Cisco based, we use PIX firewalls for security and tend to tread away from Juniper. Cisco will probably end up buying them out anyway, networking rivalry is pretty week with a manopoly like Cisco. Having said all this, to be honest I dont have much experience of juniper, I've worked with a M series router and remember it being Cisco for newbiews, I also have some vague memory of ACL's being weird (could be why thefirewalls are highly recommened). What I do know is that the IOS isn't as strong and was extremely easy to learn following Cisco experience, stick to what you know anyway, thats my vague advice. If you can ever afford it and have a big enough network to facilitate it the Cisco 6500's are the best kit I've ever worked with, simply amazing! Go with Cisco, the IOS is basically a stripped down version of Cisco and offers less configuration. I work in a data centre and almost all our kit is Cisco based, we use PIX firewalls for security and tend to tread away from Juniper. Cisco will probably end up buying them out anyway, networking rivalry is pretty week with a manopoly like Cisco.

Having said all this, to be honest I dont have much experience of juniper, I’ve worked with a M series router and remember it being Cisco for newbiews, I also have some vague memory of ACL’s being weird (could be why thefirewalls are highly recommened). What I do know is that the IOS isn’t as strong and was extremely easy to learn following Cisco experience, stick to what you know anyway, thats my vague advice.

If you can ever afford it and have a big enough network to facilitate it the Cisco 6500’s are the best kit I’ve ever worked with, simply amazing!

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